Cable, Patriots, Seymour in game of "he said, he said, he said"
Written by Levi "Dizzle" Damien   
Monday, 07 September 2009 20:14

Tom Cable says Seymour wants to be a Raider
The Raiders' trade for Richard Seymour was made on Sunday, the NFL has it listed in their trades, Raiders.com has it listed on their transactions page, and William Joseph was cut to make room on the roster. So why isn't Seymour in a Raiders uniform yet? Better yet, why isn't he even in Oakland yet? The trade is not officially completed until Seymour takes and passes a physical and reports to practice. But since the news of the trade has went down, there has been no movement going on. Just a lot of talking and speculation.

First it was pondered whether Seymour would refuse to report to the Raiders but that idea was seemingly unfounded. Simply a bunch of NFL analysts that think no good player would welcome being traded from the NFL darling Patriots to the NFL pariah Raiders. Then came practice on Monday and Seymour wasn't around and so it was time to kick the speculation into high gear.

 

Where is he? Why? Has anyone spoken to him? Is he holed up in his house curled up in the corner refusing to come out? Is he pulling a Morgan Freeman in Lean on Me, shouting "I don't have to do nothin' but stay black and die"?

Cable attempted to nip some of the speculation in the bud in his press conference today:

"I have talked to him... We have attempted to make a deal. There are some issues still between him and the Patriots that are being worked out. Hoping that that will get resolved as quickly as possible. We know that the player wants to be here but we have really no control over those issues. So that's really all I'm going to talk about it for now."

He was then asked again if Seymour specifically said he wants to be in Oakland to which Cable said "Yes".

So what could be these "issues" he needs to resolve with the Patriots that are keeping him from being in Alameda taking his physical and getting his new Raider throwback jersey?

According to Patriots spokesman Stacey James, via Greg Rosenthal of Profootballtalk.com, the Patriots are completely unaware of any difficulties surrounding the deal. And when have you ever known the Patriots to lie about anything huh?

A while after that, Tom Curran of the Profootballtalk.com, which is sounding more and more like ESPN with the amount of Raider hatred they are spitting, spoke to former Patriot Rodney Harrison (and current NBC analyst the company that PFT is now a part of...hmm). Harrison said he spoke to Seymour and he said,

"He is not thrilled... Put yourself in his position, He's going from a first-class organization to one of the worst in the NFL."

He then went on a rant about his own opinion of the Raiders and how horrible they are compared to the Patriots. But when he was asked about whether Seymour would report to the Raiders, all he could say was "I don't know that" and then continued to rail on with his opinion.

Hey..uh... Rodney? No one gives a flying F--K what YOU think of the Raiders, got it? You were a Charger, Chief and Patriot so it is a pretty safe bet that you are just a little bias in this situation.

So we still haven't heard a single person publically say there are any problems (Cable said "issues" not problems) keeping the deal from going through. And despite the circus of media, most of whom don't really care much for the Raiders, insisting that there is no way Seymour wants to play for the Raiders, we have nothing to go on but conjecture.

What could he be fretting about anyway? He has three rings already. He has held out for more money with the Pats three times and is still underpaid for a five time Pro Bowl player (Under 4 mil a year). One thing he knows he will get in Oakland is paid. His line mate Tommy Kelly has proven nothing and he was briefly the highest paid defensive tackle in football prior to last season. Last time the Raiders sent picks to a team for a high profile player was the DeAngelo Hall deal and they gave Hall a sickeningly huge payday to the tune of $70 million. The Pats NEVER sign those kinds of checks. They think that every player should just be honored just to be a Patriot. Even though the Patriots have never shown any loyalty to even the players that were the most loyal to them.

But don't take my word for it, just ask Rodney Harrison:

"You look at the move made by [Patriots head coach Bill] Belichick, and you can see him saying, 'I'd rather get rid of a guy before the last year of his contract.'  You know what?  That's the business... I knew that and instead of my getting whacked [by New England], I whacked myself."

So despite Rodney Harrison getting all lathered up about the Raiders and "whacking" himself off, it makes little sense for Seymour not to welcome the chance to be a Raider at this point in his career. He will be appreciated in Oakland in a way that he was never appreciated in New England, with a contract to match his production and with a loyalty that is unmatched as well. And if he can fix this team's run defense, he will have truly achieved greatness.

But until further notice, let's keep all of this in perspective considering it is just ONE DAY following a trade no one expected to happen-- least of all Richard Seymour-- and everyone expects him to arrive from completely across the country ready to go? Can he pack first? Kiss the wife and kids? Get his affairs in order?

Sure, Tom Cable would love to have Seymour in the fold, as Cable said "Just as soon as possible", but I would at least give it another day before I start getting impatient. As for now Seymour is still in Boston. The flight alone is a long one so unless he takes a red eye flight Monday night, he probably won't be at practice Tuesday either.

If we don't see Seymour trotting out on the field by Wednesday for practice, then we can get impatient. The Raiders have a longer week than most teams being that they don't play until Monday. If they were playing on Thursday then Seymour wouldn't even need to bother because he wouldn't be playing in the game anyway. But with the first game being a home game and the game being Monday, if he gets here by Wednesday, he will have five days of practice. That should be sufficient time to give the Chargers a few fits trying to figure out how to keep him under wraps.

All the while, the Chargers still need to figure out how to keep Tila Tequila under wraps.



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TILA TEQUILA HAHAHA!!!
written by KUSH, September 07, 2009
dude, that's one of the funnest things you've said Dizzle.. kudos. Yea, I'd say that the chargers have more things to worry about than Seymour, like not having their greatest pass rusher in decades for YET ANOTHER SEASON, or at least for a few games.

Yea man, I'm not going to follow the hype on this one on how he doesn't want to be here. Like you said, what else does he have to accomplish in this league for crying out loud. The nation loves their players, and will defend them to the death. ESP ones that can change the chemistry and attitude of the lockerroom.

And I totally agree with you, Wednesday I will start to worry about this deal. One would think that Al would talk to Seymour personally over the phone about 1. being apart of duh ray-dahs, 2. getting a dumptruck full of money on his front doorstep, and 3. being a leader etc etc RAYDUH GREATNESS etc etc.. so on so forth(about a 4 hour conversation) ... don't you think LDizzle?
oops
written by KUSH, September 07, 2009
Oh my god, I see, this actually was Tila Tequila.. I have been in the mountains all weekend with no cable, so I'm just now reading about all this, I thought you were refering Merriman as Tila Tequila, my mistake.
Screw Florio; Welcome Seymour
written by BlackSunday, September 08, 2009
PFT and every Florio article I read is Raider hating, even when he tries to praise the Raiders for something he will always throw in some junk.

I am happy to see Seymour coming and yes I would be a little upset and mad if I was a 5 time pro bowler who got traded a week before the first game of the season from a team that has a chance to go to the superbowl to a team you don't know a ton about and has a losing record. But that frown will turn upside down with a good pay day and giving Cable and team a chance.

Ellis is looking pretty good and it's nice to know we should have some longevity, have fun Pats when Burgesses starts complaining about his pay.
Getting Seymour on the other side of the D line and having the ability to releave Kelley and Warren on 3rd down. Scott will come in as our sack specialist and should have some fun going one on one most the time.

This is huge and I only expect that Seymour has to change the mode and be mad about this trade. The best thing he could do is help this franchise turn around and be playoff bound so that trade doesn't look so good anymore for the Pats.

This division can be won and it starts with the first game!

Thanks for the update Dizzle/I agree Kush
written by NuclearWinter, September 08, 2009
I think, I hope it's nothing to worry about, I agree, getting things in order, figuring out the money in the contract. Do they pay moving expenses? haha. Hope we can get several good years out of him and a fair contract. Fingers crossed, hope he's here for Monday.
HOF
written by Tony from NB, September 08, 2009
Difficult for Seymour & family...for sure. Betrayed by the Pats...hell ya! Looking for revenge...I hope! Wants new contact....you know Al will do it!

But think about this...he goes from the Penthouse to the Outhouse (according to some NFL experts..f#$% them...pro-bowler in NE and a pro-bowler in Oak, changes the attitude and performance of the Raider-D...it's HOF for Seymour.

Welcome to the Raiders Richard, and we look forward to you being the Captain of the D.
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written by SpokaneOakFan, September 08, 2009
Ypu all know where this last round of vitriol comes from- if this player anchors the D-Line on THIS team, then crow will have to go on the menu at a lot of sportswriter hangouts. If the Raiders outperform SF this year, Boomer might hang himself. Tim Kawakami will have to go back to covering tennis. 95% of analysts will just plain look stupid.
Levi "Dizzle" Damien, you just became one of my favorite writers.
written by evoman1960, September 08, 2009
Right on my Raider brother. At one time Rodney Harrison wanted to play for the Raiders, he even came in for a tryout back before joining the Patriots.
Thing is, the Raiders didn't offer him a contract.

You are so right about Seymour not being in Oakland Monday LOL. The man just found out Sunday afternoon he was traded. The media just loves to stir the pot when it comes to the Raiders. I am sure he will be in pads wednesday morning like you said. 5 days of practise should be plenty of time for an crafty veteran like Seymour to get ready.

what if he never shows up?
written by NvRaiderFan(Bill), September 08, 2009
Just wondering if anyone knows what would happen if he decides not to show. Would the raiders still lose that first rounder to the pats? i've heard that the trade is already noted by the NFL. I would hope that the raiders would get that pick back, but knowing the raiders luck we might get no player and no pick.
Scream it in Rodney's face!
written by Bill from San Clemente, September 08, 2009
"Hey..uh... Rodney? No one gives a flying F--K what YOU think of the Raiders, got it? You were a Charger, Chief and Patriot so it is a pretty safe bet that you are just a little bias in this situation."

Hahahahahahahahahaha! Go Dizzle, Go!
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written by KUSH, September 08, 2009
NvRaider, no they can void the entire deal if the man never shows up for his physical.. which means getting their first round pick back. That's why it's a lose lose situation for Seymour if he's a no show.

But it's quite obvious that they're working out the details on a 30+ mill guaranteed deal. It probably took longer than we thought to workout a deal for Walker and Gibril Wilson ... probably a few nights before the FA market hit. As for Hall, that obviously took a lot of brain power(god i wish it didn't happen but what's done is done)to strike a deal.. remember everyone saying(like adam shefter) "it's probably not going to happen" ... but it just took a few days to comb out the final details?

That's just what's happening here.. my guess: worth up to 68 million , with 38 million guaranteed .. who can get closer? Yes, this is "the price is right" and i am bob barker.
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written by RaiderDoc, September 08, 2009
I just hope if he does come he plays. Hopefully he is a strong enough man that the Raider dysfunction doesn't destroy him. I'm in wait and see mode. Tired of getting my hopes up. I keep reading how everyone thinks this is going to turn our defense around... well I remember everyone getting psyched about Hall, and Moss... etc etc.

Please Seymore, come in, step up, and turn these guys around. Lead by example. We have the talent, what we need is a strong character to focus that talent!
give me the pick
written by NvRaiderFan, September 08, 2009
I'd rather have the first round pick in the 2011 draft. There might be a rookie cap and the Raiders will be broke after all the $$ they are putting out. Kush, if the Raiders give the guy that much I will be shocked! I say 4 year deal 35mil with 20mil guaranted. That is if he even gets signed at all. I really do hope he stays with the Pats and we get that pick back.
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written by Stony Stoner, September 09, 2009
My brother is a Dolphins fan, they play NE twice a year. He calls Seymour "The Fin Killer".

I'm thinking Seymour wants a multi-year contract. Like Dizzle says, he wants to get paid. I sure hope he is in the game Monday night.


:O
written by NuclearWinter, September 09, 2009
I think I traded my 1st pick a few years into my Madden 09 franchise to get Seymour smilies/grin.gif last year, and turned Jamarcus into a pro-bowler smilies/wink.gif He better be here to smash the Chargers!
Still not buying the hype?
written by pat_1254, September 10, 2009
Day 4 and no Seymour. He knows he screwed the pootch one too many times by trying to get more pay from the Patriots. A franchise that gets it. You either understand that to win in a capped league you need to make financial sacrifices and you need to work damn hard. Raider fan is still trying to figure that out. Harrison is right and you're too blind to see it.

GO PATS!!!
bandwagon
written by NvRaiderFan, September 11, 2009
Finally, we here from the Pats ever growing bandwagon. Loser!
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written by D2D, September 17, 2009
YUP! WANNA KNOW WAT RICHARD SAID TO U...FROM 1996-2005 HOW MANY MEN THAT EVER FCK UR LOVER/WIFE/GF/MAMI OR UR DAUGTHER RIGHT? HAHAHA OF COS HE IS MANNER NOT ZX DIED SPEICIES YET..BUT I THOUGHT IT'S NOT MY BUSINESS TO INVOLVED HIS PERSONAL POSITION, EVEN THOUGHT I REALLY WANNA KNOW WAT THE FAV POSITION HE LIKE ON GAMES.. smilies/grin.gif
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written by D2D, September 17, 2009
IF THEY GOT CONFUSED..ANYTIME! CALL ME! IF NEED MY HELP TO COUNT FCK MEN ON THEM..FREE!NO CHARGE! ANYTIME! smilies/wink.gif

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