With the fourth pick in the 2008 MVN Writers Mock Draft The Oakland Raiders Select

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April 12, 2008

With the fourth pick in the 2008 MVN Writers Mock Draft The Oakland Raiders Select

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After much debate, Rob and I came to the agreement that with the fourth pick in the MVN Writers' Mock Draft we would select Vernon Gholston, DE, THE Ohio State University. We were leaning towards Ryan Clady for most of the debate, but it came down to two factors. First, the quarterback must go down and he must go down hard. The Raiders only have three defensive ends on the roster and having a player with Gholston's measurables would be too tantalizing to Al Davis to pass up.

The Rams took our top prospect off the board, when the grabbed Chris Long. He was going to be the perfect second generation Raider. With him gone, Rob and I agreed that the lines needed to be reinforced. We were all but set to go with Ryan Clady, OT Boise State, because we are impressed with his combination of size and athleticism. It is said that with the zone blocking system you can get linemen in later rounds and plug them in a la Denver. The issue is that last year's JaMarcus Russell is a $70 million investment in the future of the Raiders, and the Raiders need to protect him. If you drive a beat up 86 Mustang, any low cost insurance will do, but if you have a brand new Mustang Shelby 500 KR, then its time to go AllState or State Farm and get top of the line full coverage. We chose to believe that with our quarterback investment, we are in good hands with (offensive line coach) Tom Cable.

One of Al Davis's favorite sayings is, "The quarterback must go down, and go down hard." We wanted Chris Long, but he was gone early. Vernon Gholston is the next DE on the board. I can just hear Lane Kiffin saying of Gholston, "We are excited to have a player of his athleticism who will get to the quarterback."

This has all the makings of an Al Davis pick. He is a workout beast with a high upside that fits right into a position of weakness on the Raiders. We do have some concern over his work ethic, and how well his skills will transfer from college to being a pro defensive end, but feel that defensive line coach Kieth Millard will be able to mold him into the player he can be.

Gholston will make a great bookend with Pro Bowl defensive end Derrick Burgess, and that will make the cornerback tandem of Nnamdi Asomugha and DeAngelo Hall that much more lethal. Quarterbacks will not have time to hope that receivers can get any separation as Aso and Hall will have their guys in tight coverage. The middle of the field will not be welcoming as linebackers Thomas Howard and Kirk Morrison who combined for 10 interceptions last season will be lying in wait.

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45 Comments on "With the fourth pick in the 2008 MVN Writers Mock Draft The Oakland Raiders Select"

Posted by OakFoSho, April 12, 2008 1:56 PM

Sigh!

OakFoSho

Posted by kevini, April 12, 2008 2:09 PM

i agree, it will be Gholston. other sites have said that he wasn't that big of a playmaker in college though. dont really know too much about him, I'm a USC fan, but i saw some of him on youtube; the guy can fly. he went right through Jake Long and freight trained Mike Hart on the same play. it was supposedly the one and only time Jake Long got pancaked last year. just hope he doesn't crash and burn in the pro's.

Posted by DevDuck, April 12, 2008 3:28 PM

This is the conclusion that I reached as well -- with the caveat, of course, that Chris Long is off the board by the time the Raiders are on the clock.

One thing I haven't seen discussed much in the consideration of Mr. Gholston is Derrick Burgess' status with the team.

Consider that Mr. Burgess only has two years left on a contract that he has long considered inadequate; remember that he held out for a portion of training camp last year. Burgess will be 31 years old at the conclusion of said contract; not old enough to be washed up, but certainly long in the tooth for a DE.

It's also worthy of note that #56's stats have declined every year since he joined the Raiders in 2005.

The much younger, faster and some would say more talented Vernon Gholston might become Derrick Burgess' REPLACEMENT, not his complimentary bookend.

Posted by Adrian, April 12, 2008 4:18 PM

I agree. I feel that he has the talent to play OLB in the NFL so we can use Burgess, Richardson, & Edwards w/out sitting Gholston. I feel he will be a terror to the AFC West quarterbacks.

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Posted by MartinTheMerciless, April 12, 2008 5:10 PM

Check out Jerry McDonald's blog today. I've been laughing at Jerry's wiseacre comment all afternoon.

Q: Are there times during your penalty-free streak that you thought, that was a hold and they could have gotten me there?

Long: Absolutely. I��ll admit that I hold. I��ll get my hands inside and hide it that I��m holding. I try to hide it so that the refs can��t see it.

Editorial note: You come to Oakland, Jake, and they��ll see it.

Posted by Rada4life, April 12, 2008 7:06 PM

I TOTALLY AGREE!Being a long time Raider and Buckeye fan(38 year fan,btw),there nothing i would love to see more than the Raiders future with two former Buckeye DE's sacking QB's for fumbles and losses.We all love Burgess and hope he gets a well deserved contract,but the future(if we draft VG)will be in them two's hands when Burgess moves on (if no contract or doesn't produce)or retires.Let's face it,Burgess is not an every down player and he is starting to get up there in age.Kiffen loves competition and VG bring that type of competition to the practices and games.He has a crazy weight room work out and will do nothing but get bigger and stronger through each off-season.Yes,he is a workout freak!Just look at the size of his arms.Although i would to have him drafted by the Raiders,i seriously doubt he will be available.If he is,i say draft the freak...

Posted by pat, April 12, 2008 7:56 PM

Ok i know one thing either Chris Long or Vernon Gholston will be avaible(preferiably C. Long) Derrick Burgess is getting old so i dont know if i would want to give him a superstar defensive end contract. Think about haven V. Gholston, D. Burgess, K. Edwards, and J. Richardson sounds like a pretty good rotation of DE's to me.

Posted by pat, April 12, 2008 8:01 PM

Plus Vernon Gholston will help Rob Ryan tweak the defense a little bit and chnge the looks to maybe a 3-4 on 3rd downs or have special stunts for Gholston and Burgess also he can do what the Giants did with Justin Tuck in the superbowl matching him up against a guard because he has the stregnth and the quickness to get past him and get to the QB.

#10

Posted by OakFoSho, April 12, 2008 9:09 PM

Pat,

Derrick Burgess is not getting old! He played injured for the majority of the season last year, and when finally healthy, he again dominated towards the end of the season. I am tired of all the shots that people are taking at Burgess as they are uninformed and uneducated on his importance to this defense.

Al's Mandate is McFadden!!

OakFoSho

#11

Posted by mandingo, April 12, 2008 10:19 PM

i agree with the pick, i feel gholston could be a good bookend to burgess and if burgess decide to leave we got a replacement, plus it will give our defense more versatility in how we lined up against other teams.

#12

Posted by Corsair214, April 13, 2008 1:10 AM

I don't agree. As a life long Buckeye fan and alum I've watched every college game Gholston has played in. He's not good against the run unless they run into him. If they run to the side opposite Gholston he only jogs in pursuit. Gholston would be a poor choice for a team that needs to better defend running plays.

#13

Posted by mikeinny, April 13, 2008 3:54 AM

i want all of you , or one of you to tell us where would c-long play ,

then w/ that who is the sdt playing next to him ?? significance ??-- well warren is big&strong but oft injured , and isnt a every down guy !! after warren there is no oine thanx to ROBRYAN !! c long will be better vs run for this team , but the other teams will soon learn they need to double him,w/ rot / fb or z-y on seal block , nullifying his motor & explosiveness!

due to warren not there every play or game ! your sde is only as good as the guy next to him !!! and again thanx to ryan we dont have a SOUND method os stopping the run !!!

i love the idea of c long , but in reality ROBRYAN will only ruin his career from the first snap of preseaon !!!

also where does burgess go then !!! he has not been a sde ever in career, but ryan keeps playing him there cause " it's a mismatch" or " he's left handed ???" or

" well u dont expect a pass rusher there " DAAAH!! that is what we have as a def cord. a RETARD MUTANT non professional imbysal !!! o.k.!!!

w / def line of long/warren/kelly/richardson !!!

it will be good vs run but no PASS RUSH !!! , AND EASILY doubled @ run rites, and RICHARDSON will prove again @ wde that he is A " NO TALENT LOSER" weak vs run , no pass rush !!!!

in theory w/ long in the fold we will then pinning our hopes on 2 things , ROBRYAN, and G.WARREN playing injury free & dominant for first time in his career !!!!! i give this a 3 % chance of success!!!

i'll call it now ryan will feverishly try to get the following guys " out of town "

burgess ( for 4th rndr , claiming he aint strong /big enuff to play @ sde after 3 years ,that is why he lobbys'for c long !!)

huff for a 2nd rounder - claiming well he aint physical enuff to play S.S. ,so thats' why we brought in wilson/and drafted whoever in the 2nd round!!! this is the worst scenario !!!! he screwed this GEM OF A PLAYER up since he got off the bus !!!

fabian- well ryan will claim his play declined ! but the truth is fabian is 180 lbs ,runs @ 4.25/40etc and is getting the shit knocked out of him in " RUN SUPPORT "

he is fleet /elite cover guy on the wrong side of ball !!ryan regulary lines him up vs braylon edwards,tony gonzalez(indys) davis @ chagers etc !! go back & look !!!

ryan has detsroyed this guys career . and our teams future again withthis type of moves over & over again !!!

so ryan will try to get a 2nd for him , but will wind with a #4 & justify that with a

" well we got hall & routt there, so fabian cant match up as well as those 2 there "

so all in all ryan covers his traks with getting rid of

huff # 1 7th overall,& gets a #2 in return!!!

fabian #1 22ndovrall ( we also gave buchanon a#1 & doug joleey a # 2 ) & gets a #4 in return

and in burges ,a talent/ sack leader languishing to waste in a "BIZZARO WORLD SYSTEM"that doesnt play to his talents , also one of al davis' prize recxlamation projects !!! ryan gets us a #4 or alow #3 at best !!!! and then claims

" well we got long now & al wants howies' kid to start so that left derrick without a home "

you heard it here first , and i am going out on limb,but not really !!!these are the kind of moves that this d.b./ looser has been pulling off for last 4 years !!

i just happen to be the only guy on the planet that has noticed !!!

most people ,espn included dont know the differnce between STRONG SIDE END & WEAK SIDE END !!

and the difference between WEAK SIDE TACKLE & STRONG SIDE TACKLE!!!

#14

Posted by mikeinny, April 13, 2008 4:02 AM

oh p.s. anyone who takes gholston is not getting what they think or what he claims to be !!!

" a 21 year old junior that hasnt peaked yet!!! "

true he is a great talent , but he is also 25 or 26 years old , !!!! how u ask ??? well he is born in detroit , and a few years there was a lady in dmv there that since 1965 thru 1995 was changing the birth dates for CERTAIN TYPE people ,making their newborns younger for 2 reason they found, #1 the kids are going to school longer so the mothers,can get govt benefits longer!!! and also the 1st graders would be 8 & 9 years old & not 4&5 years old !1 the older kids would then be able to be more competive academically !!as well as physically !!!

everyone there knows this , they just arent talkin about it !!! it is emebarasing , and swept under rug !!

guess who is one of these kids !!! 'LEBRON JAMES ""

that explains alot !!!

the 21 year talent is a true find , u get 9-10 years b4 talent drops , worth everydime rite !!! but the 26 year old has 3-4 years left in tank b4 talent drops !! there is the big differnce !!! read the write up on gholston in PFW'S DRAFT ANNUAL ! gholstons previosu teachers & coaches all lauding himfor being so mature for his age & andvanced physically !!!

I KID U NOT!!!!!!!!! IT IS ALL TRUE !!!!

#15

Posted by pat, April 13, 2008 5:43 AM

Gholston has BUST written all over him. Big deal he makes one play vs. Michigan now he's a top 5 pick. No thanks. What did he do aganst LSU adn Florida. ZERO. Wow he got a sack agaisnt Jake Long. Big deal he will be giving up sacks on a weekly basis in the NFL like Gallery. Gholston is an overhyped overrated player who happens to excel at the "combine and not on the football field. Plus if you have watched Gholston play. Most if his sacks he is untouched. When a lineman gets his hands on him, he's shut down. Another workout warrior who going to steal millions from a team.

#16

Posted by INVAIDUH, April 13, 2008 5:46 AM

Inconsistent shows up everytime I read a scouting report and when you go back and look at some of his games he disappears. Gholston has a big bust factor. McFadden, though not the biggest need is a homerun hitter. And how much money are we going to invest on the defense not to mention just the line alone?

#17

Posted by Ryan, April 13, 2008 7:13 AM

Mikeinny's theory about age changing might really what happened to grandfather greg oden. LOL

#18

Posted by Mad Road Dog, April 13, 2008 8:28 AM

Wrong, wrong, wrong...you guys made the argument and then followed with an illogical conclusion. The fact is Turnstile Harris cannot pass block well enough to provide JR his needed protection. QB is the toughest job at which to be successful and the success of the team ultimately rides on his shoulders in the long run. The development of a rookie is more crucial than an established QB and JR time is now. There is a reason Harris was let go by another losing team and that is he cannot pass block. The ZBS does not work the same for pass blocking as it does run blocking. The same is true for Green at RT. You always build your "O" line first and then make your "D" line better. The very good QBs are a rare gem.

#19

Posted by SpokaneOakfanOakfan, April 13, 2008 9:26 AM

Vernon Gholston is Mike Mamula.

Tell me- one time, ever, there has been a guy who "improved his stock at the combine" or "was a workout warrior" who wasn't a complete and utter bust?

Mamula, Matt Jones, Aundray Bruce, etc, etc.

Who was gholston at the beginning of the season? The halfway point?

Who is he now? Quentin Moses.

Glenn Dorsey if he's there fixes the biggest hole on D right now. Other than the dominant LT which I don't see in this draft, there is no other smart pick.

#20

Posted by terceira, April 13, 2008 11:03 AM

we should not take gholston pat is right he has bust all over him if dorsey is there we should grab him for run support he doesnt take plays off like gholston or trade down with the cowboys for their 1rnd picks and draft usc linebacker with the first and limas sweed next and trade fabian for a second round and get unc dt or trevor laws from notre dame

#21

Posted by LDizzle, April 13, 2008 11:31 AM

Actually Quentin Moses was the opposite scenario spokane. Moses was better his junior season and then his sack totals came down as as senior and he was passed up by his teammate Charles Johnson. Quentin Moses would have been the highest rated DE if he would have came out after his junior season but when teams focused on stopping him they did and his stock fell. Then the Raiders took a chance on him in the 3rd round and he proved that his senior season was no fluke: He was.

I could see the Raiders drafting Gholston because he can play DE and LB which the Raiders need both of. However I personally agree that he has bust written all over him. Of his 14 sacks; 7 of them were in two games. 7 sacks over all the rest of his games doesn't look too good. His lack of speed could be a non-issue though. Terrell Suggs was said to be slow and his stock dropped but the Ravens knew better and found themselves a hell of a player. So with Gholston I will expect the worst and hope for the best (if he is a Raider that is). I just hope if it comes to that we trade down and if he is still there, take him there. He is too risky for #4 pick money.

I don't see them letting Burgess go though. They are just waiting to re-sign him because if he has another injury or down season they will get him for less. And whoever it was that said that Burgess' sack totals have gone down every year is a fool. When a guy starts at 17 sacks, a bit less the next year is to be expected. And he was injured last year. So your statement was pretty retarded. The Raiders just gave decent money to a guy who has never had more than 7 sacks in his career (Kalimba Edwards) while Burgess had 8 sacks during an injury plagued season. So saying that Burgess "is better on his worst day" is entirely true.

#22

Posted by OakFoSho, April 13, 2008 11:38 AM

Mikeinny = Mike40Whiner

Same writing style. Blabs on and on w/o really saying anything, cant complete sentences in a logical manner, and this time is pretending to be a member of The Nation as opposed to a 40Whiner fan.

You can't fake Raider Nation membership 40Whiner, so you may as well give up the facade. Don't respond to Trolls!!

Al's Mandate is McFadden!!

OakFoSho

#23

Posted by BUZZ, April 13, 2008 1:09 PM

I agree that Ghoulston should be the pick. Imagine Burgess and Edwards on both ends and Ghoulston at OLB playing off the same end as Burgess. Which one will they choose to block? Along with Richardson off the bench, this potential D-Line will only make Asmo & Hall that much better.

#24

Posted by INVAIDUH, April 13, 2008 1:27 PM

Spelling names correctly is huge when you want to be taken seriously.

#25

Posted by raiderfn4lyf, April 13, 2008 1:46 PM

I think we should trade down and try to get a 2nd or 3rd then if Ellis is still on the board take him. I feel we need a 2nd or 3rd round pick to fill the holes we have on both lines. I think we will also have to pick up WR in the 4th or later Walker is done. I agree we need to protect the most important position on the field,especialy in his developmental state not to shoot his confidence out the gate. In no way would I pick up Mcfadden, I think Bush can be a work horse for us with Rhoads, I would cut jordan. I don't think Vargas will start this year with bush and Rhoads in camp.

#26

Posted by SeattleRaider, April 13, 2008 2:19 PM

SR MockDraft

MIA J. Long

STL G. Dorsey

ATL (trades pick to Dal, who selects D.McFadden)

OAK (swaps firsts w/ Cin, also swaps C. Johnson for J.Walker) Oak with the #9 Selects R.Clady

OK, OK, Back to reality......

I'm sure if C.Long is still there, he would be a Raider. Gholston and Ellis seem a bit of a reach at #4, I would be happy with either, But as long as were having fun with our mock drafts..........

#27

Posted by SeattleRaider, April 13, 2008 3:12 PM

In that scenario,

Cincinnati takes Ellis at #4 (to help stop the bleeding of their Defensive line) From what I'm hearing the Bengals are getting the word out that they're very interested in getting one of the two top DTs. However, T'is the season for misinformation.

#28

Posted by LDizzle, April 13, 2008 5:10 PM

raiderfn4life: The Raiders signed a guy named Vargas? Isn't he a boxer? I had no idea he could play football. Also, who is Rhoads? If being a "Raider fan 4 life" is your goal you might want to know the players names. Just a suggestion.

#29

Posted by RaiderMike, April 13, 2008 5:40 PM

Does it matter when or who the Raiders pick? Davis needs to step back, stand behind his hire and let Kiffin sink or swim on his own, show a little public support for his coach. It worked for Jones in Dallas for a while! I'm a life long Raider fan and while Davis has done a lot of great things in the PAST he just can't seem to keep clear of coaching decisions. So much talent...So little hope!

#30

Posted by SeattleRaider, April 13, 2008 6:18 PM

Let's see........................uh,..............YA, YA it matters.

#31

Posted by pat, April 13, 2008 7:07 PM

Hey OakFoSho i assure u that im not uniformed, but if u want a superstar DE contract like Dwight Freeny, Aaron Kampan, or Richard Seymour u better be solid against the pass and the run. U dont pay millions of dollars to a guy who does half of his job, dont get me wrong i like Burgess but how old is he 28, 29. This isnt like playing QB where u play till your 36, 37. At DE theres contact on every play so lets assume we can get another 2 to 3 solid years. He's not an every down DE which is a problem we cant stop the run because of our DT's but our DE's have to stay in their lanes. I wouldnt mind having Dmac on our team but last year we were 5th or 6th in the league in rushing offense but we were 31st in rush defense we have more needs than a RB.

Al's mandate Chris Long or Vernon Gholston!!!

#32

Posted by INVAIDUH, April 13, 2008 7:28 PM

Chris Long, Dorsey or McFadden is the pick at 4 unless there is a trade down....It's bluechip or nothing at fourth overall......We dont need another potential bust.....

#33

Posted by raideralex4evr, April 13, 2008 7:28 PM

what the hell is up with oakfosho man crush on mcfadden,im mean damn dude layoff ,raiders are set at the rb position why overpay a rb who fumbles every 20 carries i believe,that crap has plagued the raiders for years drafting the next big who ever,we have needs, those needs to be met ,vernon looks like we need put him down or stand him up he is a animal,i've seen interviews seems like a well spoken young man ,unlike that thug life loser mcfadden.so put your hands on each side of your head and push up til you hear a pop sound that means your head is out of your ass ok lol

#34

Posted by pat, April 13, 2008 7:28 PM

OakFoSHo dont say that im uneducated or uninformed, explain to me how u give Derrick Burgess top DE money if he cant play the run. Im a big fan of D. Burgess but i dont know if him not being a every down DE will get him the millions of dollars he wants. He's not Richard Seymour, Aaron Kampan, or a Dwight Freeney. I would rather pick and sign Chris Long or Vernon Gholston than give him top dollar. And i wasnt talking about his production last year i know he was injured, so dont assume things. And i dont think Dmac will be the pick either we were 6th in rushing offense last season but 31st in rush defense. But we also need some more picks. 1 pick on the 1st day for us just isnt going to cut it. And this goes out to the other Raiders fans learn how to spell the Raider players names(Dominic Rhodes and Justin Fargas).

Al's mandate Chris Long or Vernon Gholston!!!

GO RAIDERS!!!!!!!!!!!!

#35

Posted by INVAIDUH, April 13, 2008 7:42 PM

With Hall, Wilson and Huff we'll be able to put an extra man in the box. Fargas had tons of yards against B.S. competition....When picking in the top five you need a sure thing. Fargas gets hurt way to often to rely on and he's not 21 anymore. If he was a great back he would've shown up years ago. Bush looks good but still only a slightly better version than Wheatley...Bluechip or a trade down.

IF WE STAY AT 4 McFADDEN IS THE PICK.

#36

Posted by INVAIDUH, April 13, 2008 7:48 PM

Al's mandate should be Long or McFadden...Screw workout warriors....On field production matters...

#37

Posted by B, April 13, 2008 9:14 PM

We will get C Long, one way or another. End the maddness please!

#38

Posted by Sandblack, April 13, 2008 10:40 PM

I think we all get sucked into the hype esp of Gholston and McF. We need a solid pick that is definately going to improve our team. We cant afford a gamble now. Afford in both senses of the word. Just pick a good DT and if not there look for a pick down if possible. Gholston in particular terrifies me as we have enough erratic players paid loads of money. Not another!

#39

Posted by Corey O, April 14, 2008 8:09 AM

Selecting RunDMC @ 4 with our glaring need @ DL would be akin to cats that roll around in $60k + vehicles on 22's while still paying rent instead of a mortgage (LOL). How in the hell are you purchasing Plasmas, Blue-Rays, and Wii��s; with no home owner's, renter's, or auto insurance. Um just sayin'...

It all boils down to a word..... PRIORITY! Without it, everything else is a recipe for (you know the word).....

NOTE: Please refrain from wearing-out the term "mandate." It was pretty cool when used by the first guy; but now all of his pied-piping-rats are "biting (old-school for leaching)." I don't know what's worse; that or the term "so (as in; I'm so looking forward to the Draft)."

Sheesh! That irks the hell out of me.

Yaaaaiiddaahhhss!!!

#40

Posted by pat, April 14, 2008 9:41 AM

Let me just say this about Fargas and our runnig game its this is what zone blocking does for u. It makes average running backs look like superstars ALA Denver Broncos with guys like Ron Dayne and Mike Anderson those guys aren't great but while they played with the Broncos they looked like pro-bowl caliber RB, its the line. I just dont think we need a guy like Dmac on our squad because we haver bigger needs than a RB. Were not in the situation where we can select the flashiest player. If Chris Long or Glenn Dorsey aren't there then we take Vernon Gholston or trade down to a team like the Jets or a team who might want him or Dmac. Look at the past few Superbowl champs and runner-ups didnt most of them if not all have great D-lines and/or O-lines Giants Michael Strahan, Osi Umenyiuora, Barry Coefield, Justin Tuck. Patriots Richard Seyomur, Vince Wilfork, Ty Warren. Bears Adwale Agunleye, Tommy Harris, Tank Johnson, Alex Brown. Colts Dwight Freeney, Raheem Brock, Anthony McFarland, Robert Mathis.

I rest my case we NEED BETTER D-LINEMEN THAT PLAY THE RUN AND THE PASS WELL!!!!!! YOUR CORNERS AND SAFETIES ARE AS GOOD AS YOUR FRONT 7 MAKE THEM!!!!!!

GO RAIDERS!!!!

#41

Posted by inonewordraider, April 14, 2008 11:26 AM

Gholston will get to the QB and is less likely to get injured and probably can become a run stopping end and can play OLB. But what we really need is Dorsey or Ellis. Of course I would probably take Chris Long over either if available because he already is a run stopping end, has no injury history, will be able to play opposite Burgess or replace him eventually, is a leader, and of course would give the Raider Nation every reason to be excited. Jake Long would be another good pick for us so we can protect JR. Mcfadden although an exciting playmaker whose gonna take it to the house would not help fill the holes at DLine or OLine.

#42

Posted by LDizzle, April 14, 2008 3:08 PM

Corey no one is "biting off" the term "mandate". They are mocking the term being used at the end of every McFadden obsessed rant that OakFoSho posts. And it has become quite a verbal beat down too. I discovered OakFoSho was a total douchebag long ago and now everyone has noticed it and it pointing it out. Good times.

#43

Posted by LDizzle, April 14, 2008 3:11 PM

Jake Long is a Gallery clone. Too scary at that pick. The thought makes my skin crawl.

#44

Posted by Rebel2124, April 15, 2008 11:50 AM

I agree about Jake Long, he has bust at LT written all over him. Plus, we don't seem to do so well when drafting lineman high. Stinchcom, Gallery, Collins - I'd be dispointed if we took J. Long. The D-line has to be addressed. Football can be won or lost in the trenches and right now we'd lose because we absolutely cannot stop the run. If you can't stop the run you can't win, it's been proven throughout NFL history.

Defense wins championships - just look at the Ravens

p.s. It's time to update the uniforms!

#45

Posted by Jehu, April 15, 2008 11:55 AM

Indeed, it is time to update the uniforms!